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4-Year-Old Attacked By Pit Bull At South Carolina Christmas Party

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File photo of a pit bull. (credit: Mario Tama/Getty Images)

File photo of a pit bull. (credit: Mario Tama/Getty Images)

CHARLESTON, S.C. (CBS Charlotte/AP) — A 4-year-old Tennessee boy is recovering after being attacked by a pit bull dog at a family Christmas party in South Carolina.

Christopher Ranly was attacked at a party near Walterboro on Saturday and is recovering at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston.

Chris lives with his mother, Brandy and his 2-year-old sister in Greeneville, Tenn. His father, Chris Ranly works in South Carolina and sometimes sees his family only every few months.

The family was at an uncle’s home near Walterboro when the child picked up an apple and walked outside to eat it. That is when the pit bull attacked the child.

“All of a sudden people were running in, screaming that one of the babies had been mauled,” Brandy Ranly told the Hilton Head Island Packet. “That’s when I heard someone say ‘Christopher.’”

Brandy’s brother-in-law was able to save Christopher by prying the dog’s jaws open, according to the paper.

Christopher needed about 30 staples in his scalp and a drain for the wound.

Colleton County animal control officials say the dog’s owner did nothing wrong.

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  • Anna Nymous

    …other than own a pit bull. Sorry, it’s true.

  • Mark Christian

    “The uncle did nothing wrong?” Owning a Pit Bull should be fu cking illegal, and owners whose dog attacks a child should be charged with reckless endangerment/assault, or even attempted MURDER.

  • Concerned for kids everywhere

    Another pit bull gone wild. Funny how we never hear about doberman’s attacking little kids. Maybe the pit bull breed needs a special classification like we have for wolves and bears.

  • Nom-inous

    “works in South Carolina and sometimes sees his family only every few months.”

    what? why? Is this a news report or a gossip column?

  • sensationalism

    I would bet the dog wasn’t even a pit bull. Articles like this routinely mislabel the dog’s breed because more clicks are coming from “pit bull attacks kid” than “poodle attacks kid”

    Pit bulls consistently score very well in human interaction tests and are of no greater likelihood to attack anybody unprovoked than any other breed. There can be “bad” pit bulls just as easily as there can be “bad” labs, retrievers, and terriers.

  • eveready

    a pit bull is a dog that has been bred to b vicious..

  • Clay R. Bradley

    I don’t think it’s fair to use a file photo of the first pit bull you could find for the story. As far as pit bulls go, the one in the photo looks like a sweet dog. I would never own one, but I know some very nice pit bulls out there. They will never be confused with Golden Retrievers. Just because you don’t have a picture of the offending animal, don’t just throw up a pic of some dog that might look like the attacker.

  • plang

    Ignorance!! Why did we not here about these attacks all through the last century…since these dogs have been a staple in the American houshold for over 100 years? Because low life thugs used their undying loyalty and natural determination to breed viciousness into them!! A dog like a child is an extension of the parent or owner! I have 3 pit bulls, the oldest is 14, and have never had an issue…and they’ve been raised around 3 children from infancy! If you prosecute owners with the same venom you use on the innocent animal, then maybe it will stop!!

  • G scope

    the NON dog ppl all chime in and they know -0- about dogs its so as u say in name “sensationalised!”

  • plang

    Doberman attacks don’t sell news papers!!

  • Gangrene

    Yes…at minimum half a brain…and not a trifle more.

  • gd

    Blame the owners, not the dog. Stupid people should not own any animals. Morons don’t know how to train them.

  • Pits are mean

    Eliminate ALL Pit Bulls..They are an untrustworthy Breed.

  • Bill Onesty

    I think if a dog attacks like this, it should be put down.

  • Responsible Dog Owner

    The difference between a Poodle attack and a Pit Bull attack… if a Poodle bites you, you say “bad dog” and get a Band-Aid, when a Pit Bull bites you, you call 911 and head to the hospital.

  • Dai Alanye

    Why is that dog still alive?

  • http://foundmyhead.wordpress.com Steve H

    More realistically, any dog that is vicious is labeled as a Pit Bull by the press, regardless of its breed.

  • sensationalism

    Absolutely and completely wrong

  • plang

    That’s an intelligent response…idiot!

  • eveready

    that’s all u got out of this article???he had to go where he could make a paycheck to provide for his family…”sees his family every few months” probably because
    there are kids in school. he’s taking care of himself and his own…and doesn’t
    need to have one of his kid’s head bitten off by a vicious dog that’s around for
    really no other reason than to help some character feel macho

  • eveready

    im sure the article showed a picture of the dog…and it did not look like
    a vicious poodle

  • Katie

    Amen. Thank you for having a heart, and a brain as well.

  • Arnie

    plang.According to this story the nephew of the dog owner took a walk outside the house. If the uncle did “breed” viciousness into the dog then surely the uncle would have leashed the dog to prevent such attacks. But the uncle did not breed any visciousness, the dog saw a stranger and attacked. Believe you me if I walked into your house unannounced one or all of your pit bulls would attack me. The fact that you have 3 children means nothing. Your kids are known to your dogs. Poor example plang.

  • Pat

    Yeah, lets just keep killing all our problems that we as humans have created. it seems to be working so far… This is stupid, i have 3 rescue dogs, all with Pit in them, and have had very little issues other than dealing with the mistreatment that they incured from people. So i say people made them this way and now some people are nice enough to deal with the problems and actually have some reverence for life.

  • reuben

    You were lucky. Not every one attacks a kid, but the breed is prone to it, you make good points that it is in part the owners, but it is also the breeders that have selected dogs for breeding that do not have the pack mentality that is common in other breeds. They were bred by N iggers, for N iggers, to protect drugs, and they have the same values as N iggers. They kill their own, look at the violence in the ebonite culture, either in the ghetto, or, in the great mother land, africa.

  • Katie

    Then lets go ahead and eliminate all humans. Completely untrustworthy breed as well. Goooood one.

  • pittfan

    Any dog would have attacked a stranger to protect it’s family. Not just a pit bull. I routinely have to put my mini schnauzer outside when strangers come over they don’t get barked at and possibly bitten. Oh and I dont ever worry about my pit doing it. Most of the time she doesn’t even bark.

  • Bryan Bendixen

    and your opinion is based on how many experiences?

  • glenp

    the “OUR GANG” dog “PETEY” was a pit bull they have been around forever

  • pittfan

    look into it a little. just because the news doesn’t report it doesn’t mean they don’t happen. also most of these dogs aren’t actually pitbulls. that picture above just says that it is a FILE photo of a pitt

  • Greg B

    More Americans are killed in an average year by pit bulls than are killed worldwide by terrorists. Just sayin.

  • Nom-inous

    Well, that is my point. It seems like the author wanted to mention this guy by name with a little jab on the side.

    “that’s all u got out of this article?” Nope! I also have your charming company to go along with it.

  • glenp

    my pit bull terrier has killed less people than TED KENNEDY

  • pittfan

    read the caption. it says its FILE photo of a pitbull, not the actual dog in this story. File photo means this news agency had a picture of a pitbull

  • brendan

    There are over 32,000 hits if you type doberman mauls in google…over 25,000 for golden retriever….German Shepherd 23,000….Now keep in mind that if the word pit bull was added, the article would be repeated a number of times to raise the number of hits.

  • pittfan

    get your facts from where? i highly doubt it. plus its OUR media that labels pitbulls and terrorists so who is to say that this was a pitbull. i would like to a see a picture of this specific dog.

  • Kilroy

    Just because we didn’t hear about the attacks doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. Why would you own a pit bull if you have young children? Is it because you want to be BAD ASS? You dare to be different. You want to take that chance? Good for you. Not me, pal. My gentle black lab is the perfect family dog. I’ll happily be ignorant and enjoy the piece of mind of my children’s safety.

  • G scope

    wow its like talking to racists with level of ignorance ppl displaying = NOT 1 credible comment with a fact about bredd i am sure Rots have many more attacks and r more dangerous i have 2 pits and have -0- issues and have had -0- issues and the ONLY neg issue i have ever had with a dog was a cute “lab”

  • buffy helmet

    Funny, but you never hear about Terriers attacking and killing people.

  • roachlight

    Goggle “doberman attacks child.” When you get through reading, c’mon back.

  • buffy helmet

    Pit Bulls are pure evil. It’s in their brains. The breed should be destroyed.

  • WRTolkas

    I’m in full agreement.

  • jorge

    Obviously that kid did something to that poor dog to make him defend himself.
    the kid should be severely punished for such a blatant disregard for fluffy the dog.
    or was the nice dog named ….killer, Lucifer,Iblīs, Prince of Darkness
    Satanic Majesty or do they call it good dog???
    and by the way no Xmas presents for that kid teach him a lesson

  • Brad

    This is true for the most part. Every dog attack is a “pit bull”. Every shooting is with an “AK47″ or “Assault Weapon”. The media uses certain things interchangeably. It sells. It gets ratings.

  • taddeo

    These dogs are bullys, you don’t hear about them attacking adults nearly as often as little children!

  • Adam

    Pitt Bulls are also known as the nanny dog. How many attacks on children (by man and animal) have these dogs prevented? I know for one that my dog (Yes a bull terrier) would not a strange around any of my childeren, even if I am in the room with them.

  • Osamas Pajamas

    Outlaw pitbulls, rottweilers, oh — and Democrats.

  • Ft Lauderdale Dad

    lovely how they use some stock photo of a pit bull type dog jumping in a cage. the dog that bit the boy…is it a registered pit bull? is it a mixed breed? if mixed….what are the other breeds this dog contains?

    for the intellectually challenged like Buffy Helmet….michael vicks’s pits were the worst of the worst…abused, enhanced to attack…but all but 1 of those pits (1 was too damaged & had to be killed) have been successfully placed in homes with ZERO attacks on anyone. 1 is even a THERAPY DOG. Please answer this…if the WORST of the breed can be rehabbed…even to the point of being a therapy dog…then how can you say the breed is defective & should be banned?

    AND….for you pit bull geniuses who think you know about the breed when you have never been around one….i say it will take you at LEAST 5 guesses before you can even find the pit bull here: http://www.bulladelphia.org/understandabull_findthepitbull.aspx

  • Ft Lauderdale Dad

    LMAO @ you…………………pits ARE TERRIERS!!!

    LMFAO……………brainless……..too funny

  • bytez

    pitfan and plang…. do your homework before you speak next time!!! Not all dogs are predatory and aggressive like a pit. Pitbulls are taught to fight other dogs in the ring, not taught to rip people apart. In this case, it was not the owner, but the dog. They are vicous!! I recommend taking a sponge and soaking it with gravy and feeding it to them. That is one way to stop them from attacking!! Watch out if you have one in my neighborhood!!

  • Timothy Frohlick

    Dear Plang,

    I once owned a pitbull in DC that hated blacks and nipped at them. Dogs can be racists too. The dog was great with white kids though.

  • Your Mom

    Let’s remember one thing. The media exists to make a profit not inform the public. They love stories like this that create debate and READERS. Readers = advertising dollars.

    I have been bit by 2 labs, one spaniel and one Akita but I’ve spent my life around pit bulls and rottweilers.

    There is no black & white answer about dog breeds. All have the ability to attack just like all the people we have spilling out of our prisons.

  • hellyeah

    ***** exterminate the pittbulls ***** Poison them!

  • Dr. Glickman

    My Homeowner’s Insurance rep states 60% of all claims are dog-related. I’m wondering abount the old adage “Man;s Best Friend”. A traumatized and badly injured child is a steep price to pay for somebody doing “nothing wrong”. Someting did go badly wrong.

  • Ernaldo T

    Pitbull cleansing has passed its time in our society…

  • Ernaldo T

    I’m with you…

  • greg

    why is this even news?

    ive owned dogs most of my life, including pits. ive been bitten more by my wifes chihuahua/dachsubd mix than any of my pits. pits can be some of the most affectionate, gentle dogs. sure, when pits do attack, injury is usually more severe than many other breeds, but not any more so than other similar sized dogs. heck my retreiver is more aggressive than my pit.

    additionally, ive never witnessed a dog attack without warning. be it growling, snarling, bearing teeth, posturing, there is ALWAYS some type of warning. if the partirs involved choose not to heed those signs, its on them.

    treat your dog right, train it well, and dont be foolish enough to let it get into bad situations, and tou wont have any problems.

  • David Madewell

    The reason they are called “PittBulls” is that they were bred to kill Bulls in a pit. I have a friend whose sweet 11 yr. old pit decided to clamp down on his 18 month old daughters face. Didn’t bark or even growl, wouldn’t let go. His wife wasn’t strong enough to open it’s jaws. The daughter survived. Barely, She is basically a vegetable. That was twenty years ago. My friends weren’t aware they owned a breed of dog that killed instinctively until that day.

  • Chuck U Farley

    Well, that settles it… based on this news article… One person gets bitten and general consensus is that all pit bulls are bad. I guess I will have to go out and kill my pit bull even though she has never done anything to deserve it other than being born into a world where people are bigoted and idiots. I also see an article where a black male committed murder. Does that mean that we should indiscriminately dispose of all black males as well? Food for thought.

  • Amy Enman

    Here are the 6 danger-signs that warn of a dog attack. Knowing them can keep you and your children safe.

    A dog in its own yard, and no master present. In 2008, 78% of the human fatalities were by dogs in their own yard.
    Pit bull, Rottweiler, Akita or Chow. Most fatal dog attacks are by pit bulls. In 2008, 65% of the fatalities were by pit bulls.
    The pack mentality. Three dogs are worse than 2, 4 are worse than 3, etc. Docile dogs often become uncharacteristically violent and vicious when they are in a pack. In 2008, 39% of the fatalities involved multiple dogs.
    Chained or tethered. Dogs that are tied up are dangerous. In 2008, 9% of the fatalities involved chained dogs.
    Male. Male dogs are several times more dangerous than female dogs. Unneutered male dogs are the worst.
    Newness. A new dog in the house is dangerous for the first 60 days, and a person who is new to a household where a dog resides is in danger of attack for the first 60 days. In 2007 and 2008, 20% of fatal dog attacks involved a new person or dog sharing a household for a period of two months or less.

    The presence of any one factor indicates danger. Two or more of these danger-signs should be avoided at all costs. For more information, see Dangerous and Vicious Dogs and Preventing Dog Bites.

  • Brad

    I hope that dog was killed on the spot. If that where my kid i would have broken every bone in that dogs body before chocking it to death while i stared into its eyes. Then the owner, family or not better run and hide.

    But i guess Pit Bulls are just miss understood, right?

    Sue the owner and make sure that dog is dead dead dead.

  • Steven Gaddis

    I think there is a greater issue here. People that keep pets in general are using them to prop up some emotional issues. Grow up deal with life and lose the animals. There is no reason to keep them. If you are worried about self defense get a gun. Otherwise leave animals out of the house. Gee’s people are most of you so emotionally crippled you cannot deal with life on your own!

  • John F Benko

    Agreed. Anyone that buys one of those demonic dogs should be horsewhipped

  • John F Benko

    agreed

  • DUH

    David madewell, stop posting nonsense on the internet. We all know your story is complete BS.

  • Rottie Owner

    I have two rottweilers that would just love to meet you!

  • Brad

    Or maybe you can pick another dog breed and we can protect children from the percentage that do attack.
    It would be fun to own a bear of a tiger too.

  • Rottie Owner

    I say if there is going to be any outlawing of dogs … let the chihuahua be the first – that is the only dog I have ever been bit by! :-)

  • astralweeks

    They’re good dogs, it’s the owners, if they’re raised right, I own the sweetest, blah, blah, blah. They were bred to fight and kill. It’s in their makeup. If you own one, it may very well turn on you or your kids some day. The difference between it and other breeds, is other breed usually quit after a bit, pit bulls do what they’re bred to do, attack until they kill.

  • Brad

    another person more concerned with dogs then children.

  • astralweeks

    But it let go.

  • astralweeks

    Bugs bunny once used a word that describes you to a tee….”What a maroon.”

  • Greg Pops Climer

    Great Article. I have an 11 year old pit that just loves children and other dogs. I have to near drag her from the grandkids, and she loves to play with other dogs.

  • astralweeks

    A bite is very different than a mauling.

  • BradCS

    Plang would rather be ignorant towards the health and safety of human beings. That’s an intelligent philosophie …idiot!

  • SmartGuy

    I would think FAILING TO SAFEGUARD HUMANS FROM A DANGEROUS ANIMAL would be wrong, but what do I know.

  • David Madewell

    dUH, you are right. Pit bulls have never bit ten anyone.

  • astralweeks

    goggle?

  • Mark Christian

    Plain obvious truth, moron.

  • astralweeks

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published in 2000 a study on dog bite-related fatalities (DBRF) that covered the years 1979–1998. The study found reports of 238 people killed by dogs over the 24-year period, of which “pit bull terrier” or mixes thereof were reportedly responsible for killing 76, or about 32 percent, of the people killed by dogs in the attacks identified in the study. The breed with the next-highest number of attributed fatalities was the Rottweiler and mixes thereof, with 44 fatalities or about 18 percent of the study-identified fatalities.

  • Eleanor

    Look. Since nobody saw the attack only the aftermath there is nobody to say what provoked it but the issue here is that you NEVER allow a 4 year old child alone with ANY dog – not a pit bull, not a chihuahua, not any dog. I think the reason that the cops said dogs owner did nothing wrong was because the owner took normal precautions and the mother or someone let the kid just wander wherever he wanted. Possible that if they wrote it up they would have to cite the mother as well

  • coachditka

    idk about these viscous pitbulls but it’s mainly the owners fault…over breeding…my mom has limited abilities due to being hooked up to a dialysis machine most of the day she has a few pitbulls…actually rescues them and fosters them….they also live with a few jack russel terriers..you know those yippy super hyper dogs…when i go home on leave those pitbulls are babies…i get bit by the smaller dogs before they even think about it… i also owned a 90lb blue pitbull and once again it came from a good family…never growled was always happy had to get rid of it because of county laws….but i’m just one person… the media get’s a hard on for pitbull stories and most of you people feed on it like a girl waiting for the money shot…my mom was attacked by a golden retriever when she was young but that’s america’s golden dog they won’t ever put that in the news.

  • YouMightBeaRedneck

    Good for you, a lot of trailer parks wont let you have 3 pit bulls.

  • Meanjeep

    In the 70′s we blamed the Dobermans. In the 80′s blamed German Shepherds. In the 90′s Rottweilers were blamed. Now the Pitbull gets the blame.
    -Ceasar Milan

  • coachditka

    mark did you take your midol today? have you ever owned or been around pitbulls? or do you believe everything you read in the news? there are a lot of factors to a dog attacking anything what you don’t get with the news is all of the facts… maybe the four year old smacked the dog with a bat… let me look up those dogs more statistically prone to attacking since you seem to get off on labeling a dog breed and the owners.

  • VEnto

    I have 2 pitts and a rottie, they are all the most wonderful gentle dogs, the reason for all this news all the time4 is because a bunch of animals mostly hip hop types and thugs abuse these poor animals and turn them into abused angry dogs, in the BLACK community they turn these wonderful dogs into starving angry animals, i would ban the blacks before the dogs

  • educated

    plang… the simple fact in all of these pitbull stories is that NO ONE saw it coming. Everyone claims they had the gentlest pitbull ever, until that one day when it bit a child in the face. No pitbull owner sees it coming although they should because the evidence clearly is there to support the notion that pitbulls are unreliable and dangerous animals.

  • Christopher Bowen

    No word in this article about the dog being euthanized. I hope the entire breed gets euthanized one of these days.

  • Aaron

    I used to have a rottweiler, raised him from an 8 week old puppy. He was always inside, part of the family. He bit me on my face because he didnt like how close I was to him when he was sleeping, bit my wifes foot when she kicked his play toy that had food in it. When we had our first kid we had the dog put down. I have never regretted that decision and my children have never been bitten by a dog.

  • yerfej

    If you own one of those demonic dogs I hope it eats you but know that if it comes near my kids you will get it between the eyes you useless bags of krap.

  • Leigh

    OK, everybody take a deep breath. Now, if you really want to educate yourself about the breed, read the following recent magazine article and then make an informed decision about pit bulls: http://gardenandgun.com/article/licked-death-pit-bull

  • BadPenny

    You didn’t hear about them because media wasn’t so accessible, it doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening! When you are not in the forest to hear a tree fall, does that mean the trees never fall? Just because you haven’t heard of stories prior to the dawn of the internet, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

    I will agree that pitbull owners should be held 100% accountable for their pitbull dog’s actions.

  • mscott

    with what?

  • BadPenny

    Statistically, 60% of dog caused fatalities are from pitbulls. The 40% are between several other breeds. Considering pitbulls are not even close to the most popular dogs, the probability of a pitbull mauling someone is far greater than any breed. Sure all dogs bit, most do not MAUL to DEATH!

  • BadPenny

    Sure it does, and it DOES happens, just not nearly as often as a pitbull.

  • BadPenny

    Really? Perhaps you should check out this website and see for yourself that most MAULING are from Pits or Rotties. You can click on the years and see the details and my guess is, they know what they are talking about when it comes to dog breeds.

    http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities.php

  • BadPenny

    Nice try but I think the uncle knows what kind of dog breed he owns.

  • Greg

    your link is to a site supporting breed specific law and attorneys… probably completely objective, right?

    try this one, where scientific research states that dachsunds and chihuahuas are most likely to snap and attack.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2254479/Sausage-dogs-are-the-most-aggressive-dogs.html

  • Gun Owner

    Yes they could meet my Two friends, Smith and Wesson.

  • BadPenny

    Hey Greg, would you rather get snapped at by a chihuahua or MAULED TO DEATH by a pit or rottie?

    Like I’ve said, ALL dogs bit, most do NOT MAUL TO DEATH!

  • BadPenny

    LOL to Osamas and Gun Owner!
    I totally agree with Gun Owner, if a Rottie or Pit were heading at me, they’d be meeting Hornady, (personal protect rounds) I wouldn’t sit around and wait for them to bit me first!

  • Greg

    statistically, you hae a better chance of being bitten by a smaller dog. that being said, lets focus this on the article, regarding children.

    are you sayiny a small child could not be mauled to death by a small dog? from personal experience, those small dogs are much harder to take of the fight. we have a retreiver mix and a dachsund chihuahua mix that occasionally squabble. when i break up the fight, 9 times out of 10 that dachsund chihuahua mix is still hanging on the retreiver. in fact, that small dog has been much more aggressive than any of our 4 dogs, including a pit. the pit has never been aggressive to any of our other dogs, or us. she is the most submissive of thr bunch.

    so yeah, id take my chances around a (key term here) PROPERLY socialized, well adjusted pit than a dachsund or chihuahua any day of the week.

    while i wont talk down on, or ridicule you for your viewpoint, as it is your right to have it, i strongly encourage you to develop some firsthand experience with the breed, rather than relying on sensationalist news stories, half truths, and hearsay.

  • Svobodnik

    My nephew left his pitbull mix at the house last year. The dog is very smart, lots of personality, very sweet and loving. He is also very energetic and plays hard and rough. He will also try to dominate others in the house (female humans) if he thinks they are weaker than him. I would never leave him alone with a child, for safety reasons, but overall he is a wonderful companion. Maybe other pitbulls have issues, but this one seems to be okay.

  • Greg

    additionally, a vet in canada published a study in a journal which stated that only 3.6% of all dog bit related fatalities are the result of a pit bull.

  • BadPenny

    No Greg, I am STATING FACTS! And you? Hardly! Lets take a look at ALL the MAULING DEATHS for this link http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities.php Please show how many mauling by a little dog then you might have a story but you don’t. All dogs bit, or are capable of bitting, yes but most dogs (especially little dogs) do NOT MAUL TO DEATH.

    Lets look at the FATALITIES in 2011 alone:
    29 Death by Dog Mauling
    18 DEATHS BY PIT BULLS 10 of which were FAMILY OWNED. (I bet they thought they were raising their pit bulls right with lots of love)
    62% of MAULING by Pitbulls! You can’t escape that FACT no matter how many times a dachshund bits someone….how many times has a dachshund MAULED someone to death?
    the rest of the MAULINGS were:
    4 Rotties – 3 of which were family dogs
    1 Dobbie family dog
    1 Akita family dog
    1 bulldog family dog
    and 4 others or unknown.

    So, is it really worth it? I don’t support killing off a breed or anything and yes there are good pits out there however, people who CHOOSE to own them should be held 100% accountable if their dog kills someone. They KNOWINGLY chose to own a vicious dog. That’s all I am saying.

    That and don’t pretend to think they are not vicious by nature! They are not even close to being considered a popular owned breed and yet they account for 60% of fatalities.

  • BadPenny

    Hey Greg, there is an old saying you should familiarize yourself with it’s:

    “If a dog is having a bad dog, it might bit you. If a Pitbull or Rottie is having a bad day, they will MAUL YOU TO DEATH”

    BTW- you expect me to believe a Canadian vet when the website I posted actually HAS FACTS and you can google each story and look them up. I suspect anyone who read your comment about what the vet said is laughing at you being so gullible. If I tell you I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’ll sell you, would you buy it?

  • Greg

    again, please post credible, objective sources. the owner of that site has a vendetta against the breed, since she was attacked by a pit years ago.

    she even states on her site that she wants a total ban of the breed.

    credible souces include: research journals, studies, scholarky articles, dog professionals (trainerd, breeders, etc). They do NOT include private web sites, sensationalist news articles, or other non-objective articles.

    the official CDC study states that less than 30% of fatal dog bites in the US are caused by pits. It also states that 16 people are killed by dogs yearlu, on average. So only abouy 4 are pit related.

    hetr’s something to think about: all owners of pits thag attack claim it was unprovoked, out of the blue. Our current laws provide MUCH stiffer penalties to dog owners who know a dog is becoming agitated to thr point of an attack, yet do nothing to stop it. now tell me, penny, do these owners have any motivation to lie and say they didnt know anything was happening?

  • JesseB

    I think its clear by this discourse that the majority of people here are only interested in voicing their knee jerk reaction. Informed decision doesn’t enter the equation.

    For this reason I say that discussion postings on any hot button subject do not accurately represent the feelings of the community at large.

    The majority of readers don’t feel they need to reinforce (emphasis on FORCE) their opinions in such a venomous and hasty way.

    What I do think the majority of people know that that blanket statements of KILL THEM ALL and the like are reactionary and ignorant to the real issue.

    Don’t worry, those who feel they need to defend their dogs honor by responding to these types of statements in this forum. Reality does not live here.

  • BadPenny

    Hey Greg, Why don’t you follow your own words and post credible sources? You saying what the CDC says is a joke. Who are you? Show me a credible source that sites facts and sources like the site I posted does or are you not capable of following the “” with each case mentioned? You can’t because you know the greatest percentage of dog MAULING comes from Pit Bulls! Followed by Rotties.

  • JesseB

    First off, “PittBulls” is not a bread of dog. And “They” were not bred to kill bulls in a pit. The #1 problem here is any dog with features similar to what people like to call a “Pittbull” is automatically lumped into one category, IE Staffordshire Bull Terrier (england), American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, English Bull Terrier.

    Now if a dog resembles any of the above but is not, in fact, of that bloodline, do you think a news reporter is up to the task of making that distinction?

    No chance, go with the headline that grabs peoples emotions.

    Just like all semi-auto rifles are “Assault Weapons” to some people.

    Its a game of semantics designed to inflame the situation based on preconceived notions.

    Second, if you are going to end with a bombshell statement like “…a breed of dog that killed instinctively” you are going to have to back it up with research and not anecdotal information.

  • BadPenny

    Hey Greg, here is a website that has the CDC study you were referring to and guess what it says Pits and Rotties accounted for 67% of all MAULING FATALITIES.

    There is another study of all attacks in US and Canada, the Clifton study, and again, Rotties, Pits and Presa Canarios and their mixes accounted for…82% of the MAULING FATALITIES.

    http://dogbitelaw.com/dog-bite-statistics/the-breeds-most-likely-to-kill.html

    You can stay in the dark if you want but facts are facts! You have facts to the contrary please post but I’m guessing you don’t!

  • greg

    ask and ye shall receive

    nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/2009%20final%20report%20dbrf.pdf

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  • greg

    that previous link shpuld be blogs, not blog. browser wont let me copy and paste, have to type links in, not easy on an iphone

    http://ncbi/nlm/nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc2387261/?tool=pmcentrez

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  • BadPenny

    LOL Greg, I provide facts on stats on dog bit maulings and you provide a shelters workers view….how is an OPINION facts? ROFLMAO! Oh and nice try on the article about how they are treated. So you are saying that ONLY pit bull owners mistreat their dogs? Sorry but there are dog owners of many MANY breeds who mistreat their dogs and yet, they don’t turn around and MAUL YOU TO DEATH.

    http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/16/6/408.long
    Spain enacted strict regulations on dangerous dogs (Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Rottweiler, Argentine Dogo, Fila Brasileiro, Tosa Inu, Dobermans and Akita Inu) and since then, hospitalization due to dog attacks has been reduced 40%

  • greg

    lastly, the cdc report you reference says that other breeds likely resukt in higher fatalities, immediately after giving the pit/rott numbers. its in the conclusion.

    you wanted to know who i am? just a guy that believes in fair, impartial, unbiased reporting, who also believes that in order to form an opinion, one must thoroughly research all availabke viewpoints, instead of juat pickibg a viewpoint and folllowing it with a blind eye towards everythibh else.

    by your reasoninh, we shoukdnt trust anyone, as people of every race have been known to kill. have fun living in your bunker, afraid of everything, unable or unwilling to form your own opinions, just blindly relying on the first viewpoint you come across. i sure hope you are more discerning when it comes to politics, but sadly, most people arent. with thag, im done with this debate. opening the eyes of a zealot is impossible.

  • G scope

    i wish my dog would bite whoever keeps forwarding each comment i was bored withthislike 5o emails ago its just wont stop!

  • BadPenny

    Here’s a publishing by surgeons who studied dog attacks for 15 years and found attacks by Pit Bulls not only had a higher mortality (that means death in case you didn’t know), they also caused more damage to the victim and higher medical bills. http://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Abstract/2011/04000/Mortality,_Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx

  • BadPenny

    Obviously Greg, you are a liberal who basis his decisions on “feelings” rather than facts and reality. I bet you find an excuse as to why people commit crimes too don’t you? When you hear a guy raped a woman I bet your first thought is, “Poor guy, I bet his father was an alcoholic”

  • greg

    liberal? more like libertarian. live and let live. if you notice in thr 2009 report, every fatality covered had 2 things i common: dogs were abused/neglected, and unaupervised children.

    personal responsibility: dont train your dog or treat him right, and let your kid alone with it unsupervised, you get whats comin. hows that for liberal?

    let me know when you finish the 230 page book concerning political/media bias against certain breeds. its chock full of every rederence you could ever want.

    regarding the shelter workers, you trust a news journalist more than someone who works with dogs every day of their lives? those shelter workers are subject matter experts, who’s statements are more factual than anyone who has less experience with dogs.

    keep clinging to your blind faith, jesus will be here in about a year.

  • Your Mom

    Let me be more specific. I had to beat the snot out o the spaniel with a stick because it was chasing me down and biting at my groin. The lab was put down by the owner after biting me & the akita should have been but the owners of that dog were uneducated about pet ownership.

  • JLoven

    No dog is naturally vicious. It is always in how they are raised. Unfortunately, South Carolina has a lot of dog fighting, and they choose pit bulls to do so. These animals are tortured and taught to attack. It’s not the breed’s fault, it’s the person.
    It used to be German Shepherds, then Rottweilers, now Pitbulls.

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